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I had to look it up, found many grand reads. I'll quote some of the best of the best and then give you my semi-informed opinion.
First BBC:
UK risks 'turning inwards' over EU referendum - US official
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"...The comments come as David Cameron prepares to make a major speech later this month on future European policy.
In response, No 10 said: "The US wants an outward-looking EU with Britain in it, and so do we."
The prime minister is facing pressure to hold a referendum on Europe at some stage during the next Parliament and has said the Conservatives will offer voters "real change" and "real choice" on the UK's position in Europe at the next election - scheduled for 2015.
Single currency
Mr Cameron wants the UK to remain within the EU but believes there is a need to redefine the relationship in light of moves towards further integration by countries using the single currency.
"We have a growing relationship with the EU as an institution, which has an increasing voice in the world, and we want to see a strong British voice in that EU”
He has suggested "fresh consent" for any new deal that emerges as a result of negotiations with other EU countries could be sought from the UK public.
However, many Conservative MPs want him to go further and to commit to a referendum on the question of whether the UK remains in the EU or not - a so-called "in-out vote" he does not support..."
Ok, so this was the news itself. First I have heard of it, a referendum is upcoming on the role of the U.K. in the EU and PM Cameron is phrasing it in terms of money, a universal currency assumedly the Euro. But some nationalists and conservatives (Tories?) are more interested in figuring out to get a vote on the option of bailing entirely (which they won't get.) And prettty much most of the U.K. is kinda pissy at the U.S. for more or less ordering the U.K. around. Par usual, they used to rail against Blair for being a U.S. suckass too, especially regarding Iraq, as I remember.
So on to the Guardian:
Britain should stay in European Union, says Obama administration
Intervention from senior US official comes as UK position on EU membership is criticised in Brussels and Dublin
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"...The Obama administration issued a direct challenge to David Cameron over Europe, on Wednesday when it warned of the dangers of holding a referendum on Britain's membership of the EU.
A senior US official questioned the merits of holding a referendum as the prime minister's campaign to reset the terms of Britain's EU membership also came under assault from Brussels and Dublin..."
This part in the middle was a good laugh, "...Gordon stressed that it was it was up to Britain to determine its European role but, in what appeared to be a clear reference to attempts to renegotiate UK membership with the EU, he said: "It would be fair to say that every hour at an EU summit spent debating the institutional makeup of the European Union is one less hour spent talking about how we can solve our common challenges of jobs, growth, and international peace around the world."..."
And I got a giggle out of Dublin having an opinion as well. Most Irish I know aren't too hot on being in the EU anyway so that would be the expected response. And check out the Guardian journalist's phrasing... "a direct challenge". And that would be the expected from the Guardian. Lolz. Good read.
Ok, now all this is about the global recession caused by America exporting it's corrupt fake SIV and other complex previously illegal financial instruments to banks all over the world, keeping us (the u.s.) from inflation while knocking the rest of the world's socks off which culminated in the 2008 crash when German banks dropped that hot potato by refusing to pretend those instruments had any value whatsoever. The damage then particularly affected island nations who are now eating dirtcakes because of our elite's greed. I do have a genuine sadness for them, but I'm not the top 2% who garnered wealth out of it, bought politicians and the Fed to do it, and never approved of any of it.
There is no chance Cameron won't be a U.S. lapdog anymore than there was for Blair (whom I'm rather fond of for his pro-PIRA directions and for his sense of humor). So everyone else, like the Torys, can express outrage all day long and it won't matter. What is... is. This will be about money and the global recession.
So here are our financials news. First, Bloomberg:
Tories React With Fury Over U.S. Advice to U.K on EU
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"...“The Obama administration now thinks the U.K. should be subservient to Brussels rule in many areas, just so the U.S. has a more acceptable lobbyist at the EU court,” former Cabinet minister John Redwood wrote on his blog. “The U.S. stance will probably recruit more U.K. citizens to the cause of a new and different relationship with the EU for the U.K. We have no wish to be told that we should lose our democracy in the cause of advancing America’s.” ..."
roflmao, very flamboyant and we get a hint of the internal politics in england here in relation to the news:
"...Arguments in the Conservative Party over Europe dogged the time in office of John Major, the party’s last prime minister before Cameron. Redwood challenged him for party leader in 1995. The debates show no sign of abating. The U.K. Independence Party, which seeks Britain’s exit from the EU, is attracting the support of about 10 percent of respondents in opinion polls..."
Ok, so that was the fun part of Bloomberg and now we have Money News:
British Conservatives React With Fury Over US Advice on EU
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"...Bernard Jenkin, the Tory chairman of the House of Commons Public Administration Committee, said Gordon’s intervention showed that U.S. governments do not understand the complexities of the EU..."
and:
"...Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg, who leads Cameron’s pro-EU Liberal Democrat coalition partners, said Gordon’s comments were “entirely unsurprising” because of Britain’s importance to the United States.
‘Stand Tall’
“America has been saying for ages — since the 1950s — that Britain and the special relationship between Britain and America which has gone through thick and thin, through conflict and peace, is one that is based on the fact that we are valuable to our American friends,” he said on LBC radio. “They are perfectly entitled to say ‘Look, if you’re interested in the American perspective, we think Britain stands tall in the world if you stand tall in your own neighborhood.”’..."
My American opinion is that it doesn't matter what 90% of average Brits think, the government is going to do exactly what it wants to and for whatever reasons the U.K. government chooses to be America's lapdogs and that isn't going to change just as the U.K government chose to hold on at great cost to the North of Ireland even though it is a black hole of financial resources, a huge drain and most Britains would rather give it back to Ireland.
Oh wellz.
Thanks for the heads up on the delightful biting commentary and on the upcoming referendum issue. Would love to hear your take on the issue and on my take on the issue.
Peace out~
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